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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:55 pm

I am not defending Ray Rice, but he was already punished for his offense, I am surprised the players union hasn't went up in arms about him being suspended indefinitely now. And just last week they set the new guidelines for the punishment, so it still shouldn't be indefinite, at the most it should be 4 more games.

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:17 pm

It won't ever really matter until the owners of these teams stop giving out lucrative contracts to criminals, thugs whatever you want to call these guys. This unfortunately will blow over and he'll make millions more I'm sure.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:43 pm

Yea, I agree, I think he will be playing again this season

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:40 am

I don't think he'll play again, he is talented, but not talented enough to put up with the bullshit that will come with him signing with a team. the protests and publicity will be a factor.


If he was say aaron rodgers who did it ( not to say he ever would do anything like that ) he wouldn't have been released in the first place, he would go to rehab and be back with the team, but a 31 year old running back in a passing league, I think he might never play again.

there are too many yunger running backs that can do what he does that won't come with the baggage.


I agree he was already punished, but i'm saying the punishment should have been stronger from the start, unless noone saw the video, which again i have a real hard time believing.

They had the video of him outside the elevator, no way they didn't see the video inside it, which is pretty damning evidence.


the team and the NFL got caught with their pants down on this, for some reason thinking that the video would never come out.

They got put in a position that they had to do something to cover their ass, probably why Goodell came up with the new suspensions, hwe was probably told that the video would be coming out and had to make that statement before it did.


the players union won't defend him, they can't without looking like they condone the assault. the players themselves i think for the most part don't want him playing so he is on an island at the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:52 am

I hope you are right, he doesn't deserve to be in the NFL, it's a privilege, not a right!

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:26 am

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I hope you are right, he doesn't deserve to be in the NFL, it's a privilege, not a right!
he doesn't deserve to be a free man, what he did to her , he should be in effin jail.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:45 am

she's defending him (and his money I'm sure)
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:52 pm

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I hope you are right, he doesn't deserve to be in the NFL, it's a privilege, not a right!
he doesn't deserve to be a free man, what he did to her , he should be in effin jail.

I agree, but she didn't press charges, like Blondie said, she wants his money

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:08 pm

she spit on him then he lunged at her - if that's the case she's as bad as he is

not that spitting is the same as a man hitting a woman but that's disgusting and does give her some responsibility in the matter

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:27 am

fights are rarely one sided, usually the woman keeps pushing buttons and at times can even be the aggressor, to me there is NO EXCUSE, no man hits a woman like he hit her, not ever.

punch the wall, grab her arms and hold her down, whatever you want, you do not haul off and throw a left cross that would have taken down sugar ray leonard, you just do not do it under any circumstances.

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:29 am

I do agree she wants his money and to live the style in which she has become accustomed to, but that doesn't make it right, he belongs in jail.


what would you say if it was your daughter and you saw that video??
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:55 am

I'd have one less son-in-law

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:02 am

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I'd have one less son-in-law
me to, i'm afraid i'd be in jail, as I am sure that my anger issues would over take his in a new york minute. Mad
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:08 am

Yea, I would beat him with anything I could find on hand, laying your hands on a woman is unacceptable, period!

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:11 am

don't get me wrong, I think he should have been punished more severely and considering his size and build a punch like that could be considered more than assault but she's guilty too
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:55 am

New footage looks like he spit on her first, which led to her spitting on him, If the NFL really had the tape all this time Goodell should be fired

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:22 am

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New footage looks like he spit on her first, which led to her spitting on him, If the NFL really had the tape all this time Goodell should be fired
I really find it hard to believe that they didn't.

they have alot more resources to find out information about this kind of thing than TMZ does, they have whole floors of investigators and ex cops and lawyers, i would find it impossible to fathom that did not have access to this tape, if not immediately, certainly before TMZ got it. I think the only reason goodell came out with the new policy is that he found out that TMZ was going to release the tape and he better do something before it becomes public.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:23 am

If that comes out I think he will be fired

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:25 am

he'll get fired if the sponsors start turning on the league. as long as the money keeps coming in the owners won't fire him, but if it comes out that he knew about this tape and still gave a 2 game suspension, I believe the sponsors and owners will turn on him and he will be fired.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:11 am

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New footage looks like he spit on her first, which led to her spitting on him, If the NFL really had the tape all this time Goodell should be fired


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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:14 am

how did they find out in the first place if they didn't see the tape? or is it just the actual punch that is causing this ruckus? I remember reading how the Ravens's staff and coaches were praising Rice's behaviour since the "incident" so they knew something a while ago.

on another note, how much more of this video is there that there's still more coming out?
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:15 pm

some law enforcement dude said that the whole video was sent to the league offices in April

if they covered it up the commish should be fired

the CEO of a multinational catering company was fired when a video of him beating his dog in an elevator was released

http://www.vocativ.com/underworld/crime/centerplate-ceo-dog-cruelty/

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:31 pm

I saw that story not long ago.

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:11 pm

So now Adrian Peterson has been indicted on child endangerment. Couldn't have picked a better time.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:51 pm

Yea I thought the same thing

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:14 pm

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So now Adrian Peterson has been indicted on child endangerment.  Couldn't have picked a better time.  
from what I have heard, it is a pretty bad situation too, I don't have a problem with parents using corporal punishment, frankly not enough of them do as far as I am concerned, but leaving welts on a 4 year old that are visible a week later, stuffing leaves in the kid's mouth, having a separate room in your house for punishment??/

I think he may have taken it a bit far. facepalm
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:44 pm

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So now Adrian Peterson has been indicted on child endangerment.  Couldn't have picked a better time.  
from what I have heard, it is a pretty bad situation too, I don't have a problem with parents using corporal punishment, frankly not enough of them do as far as I am concerned, but  leaving welts on a 4 year old that are visible a week later, stuffing leaves in the kid's mouth, having a separate room in your house for punishment??/

I think he may have taken it a bit far. facepalm

the pictures were pretty brutal - that's not normal punishment

for a 4 year old you should just give a smack on the ass with your hand
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:45 pm

I guess now we'll see who's more important to the NFL - women or children? Who's abuse deserves more punishment?
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:41 pm

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I guess now we'll see who's more important to the NFL - women or children?  Who's abuse deserves more punishment?  
wasn't the best week for the shield last week, that's for sure.

the part that bothers me is Peterson doesn't seem to think he did anything wrong.


he has a right to discipline his kids, but he went way past that as far as I'm concerned, and from what i heard it was over something pretty small to begin with.



Just wait until the rest of his kids tell someone what he has done to them.


he should be toast, but he is a whole different story than Rice, he's a major star, and MVP, and a "face" of the league.

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:54 pm

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I guess now we'll see who's more important to the NFL - women or children?  Who's abuse deserves more punishment?  
wasn't the best week for the shield last week, that's for sure.

 the part that bothers me is Peterson doesn't seem to think he did anything wrong.


 he has a right to discipline his kids, but he went way past that as far as I'm concerned, and from what i heard it was over something pretty small to begin with.



Just wait until the rest of his kids tell someone what he has done to them.


he should be toast, but he is a whole different story than Rice, he's a major star, and MVP, and a "face" of the league.



that shouldn't matter

but I did see that he's already been reinstated

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:11 pm

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I guess now we'll see who's more important to the NFL - women or children?  Who's abuse deserves more punishment?  
wasn't the best week for the shield last week, that's for sure.

 the part that bothers me is Peterson doesn't seem to think he did anything wrong.


 he has a right to discipline his kids, but he went way past that as far as I'm concerned, and from what i heard it was over something pretty small to begin with.



Just wait until the rest of his kids tell someone what he has done to them.


he should be toast, but he is a whole different story than Rice, he's a major star, and MVP, and a "face" of the league.



that shouldn't matter

but I did see that he's already been reinstated

the team is gonna make the league make a decision, which they haven't been really good at.

like I said, if he was a third string RB, they wouldn't have reinstated him so fast, they would have waited until the league told them what to do.

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:57 pm

I have to give the Vikings kudos for deactivating him anyway without the league saying anything.

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:13 am

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I have to give the Vikings kudos for deactivating him anyway without the league saying anything.
yeah but then they reinstated him, even after he admitted to hitting the kid and drawing blood.

They have had 2 other players involved in domestic violence, one was suspended for 10 games, until he was found innocent, the other was released. I think they may ultimately suspend him again, they have lost radison hotels as a sponsor, and I suspect that more will follow. They will be pushed financially until they do something.


Like I said, i don't have a problem with corporal punishment, but he went way too far, the kid was 4, and a couple swats on his ass with an open hand would have been more effective than whipping him til he bleeds.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:25 am

I agree, they shouldn't have reinstated him, they have already lost a sponsor, I think if anymore sponsors pull out they will suspend him

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:35 am

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I agree, they shouldn't have reinstated him, they have already lost a sponsor, I think if anymore sponsors pull out they will suspend him
money is the only language people like that understand.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:37 am

It's awful but true

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:43 am

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:10 pm

I have Foles as my fantasy QB, he was awesome last night!

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:35 pm

I thought he was lacking - he normally connects on more long throws than he did.

But he did move them downfield in a hurry when he had to.

I like him.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:26 pm

He got me 32 points, i'll take it. Cool

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:38 pm

He's good for that.

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:40 pm

I think Sproles may be the biggest FA Pickup this season, The Eagles are more dangerous with him than they ever were with Desean Jackson, he has a better attitude too.

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:42 pm

without him we'd be 0-2

Desean is hurt already and questionable for next week.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:31 am

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I have to give the Vikings kudos for deactivating him anyway without the league saying anything.
yeah but then they reinstated him, even after he admitted to hitting the kid and drawing blood.

They have had 2 other players involved in domestic violence, one was suspended for 10 games, until he was found innocent, the other was released.   I think they may ultimately suspend him again, they have lost radison hotels as a sponsor, and I suspect that more will follow.  They will be pushed financially until they do something.


Like I said, i don't have a problem with corporal punishment,  but he went way too far, the kid was 4, and a couple swats on his ass with an open hand would have been more effective than whipping him til he bleeds.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:50 am

Yea, they would have looked better if they never reinstated him, now it looks completely financially motivated.

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:01 am

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Yea, they would have looked better if they never reinstated him, now it looks completely financially motivated.
anyone who thought it wasn't had blinders on.
reinstating him was financially motivated, he is their best offensive player, a former MVP, he would have never been reinstated if he was schlub
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:18 am

I have a feeling it's not over yet, sponsor's are getting fed up with the lack of action on the NFL ' S part and the entitled thugs er players who think they can do what ever they want to

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:33 am

Goodell is toast, he will be resigning very soon I bet. The owners will want to make a clear statement to the sponsors that they are working on solutions.


He should have been suspended the minute this story came out.

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:42 am

you have to wonder how many more stories are going to break

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2014   Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:48 am

I don't think this story is going away anytime soon

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