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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Wed May 13, 2015 4:52 pm

I'm not sure if they nailed down that they really were under inflated. They did the measurements after the fact with two different gauges and came up with different answers on all of them. I'll try to remember to look up where I saw that. At this point there's so much going around about it I'm not sure what's real or just speculation.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Wed May 13, 2015 4:59 pm

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To be fair, they offered to let Brady's agent hold his phone and HE look through it and say whether there is anything responsive to their request, ie texts from anyone in the Pats organization regarding the deflating of balls, and they will take HIS word for it if he says there isn't, and they still declined.

I've always been a big Brady fan, I think the guy is one of the best EVER, and I don't hate the Pats.  That said I think the suspension is fair.  He had to have known, there is NO WAY some low level ball guy is going to take it upon himself to go to the bathroom AFTER the refs checked the air pressure and let out air all on his own.  It is in NO WAY conceivable that was done without at least Brady knowing about it, if not with his consent.  
to me that's IF the ball boy actually did let air out of the balls when he was in the bathroom. I have doubts about that even happening. And if it was a problem ( walt anderson said he was panicked) when the ball boy took the balls and disappeared with them, why didn't they just make them use the 12 back up balls instead until the others could be retested, or at least randomly retest a couple of the balls before they let them play an entire half of football.

I agree it is "more likely than not" tongue that there had been some tampering,whether it was that game or in the past. there was no damning evidence to me that they were told to do it for the particular game that the investigation was concerningand I don't see how you can suspend a guy 4 games for a minor infraction of a minor rule that half of the people in football never even knew existed before this.
it just seems a bit on the overboard side. 1 game, even 2, and just a fourth round draft choice would have been more than sufficient for the infraction as far as I am concerned. I bet it gets reduced to a 1 or 2 game at most during the appeal, and they made it big to make sure he did get some kind of punishment.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Wed May 13, 2015 5:24 pm

I'm a big Tom Brady fan, but I believe he knew, and told the ball boy to do it, no way does he mess with the balls unless he is told too. It wasn't just the Colt game, the Ravens said they suspected the balls were under inflated the week before in the divisional game. I wouldn't be surprised if other teams came forward with tales as well. I do think the suspension will be reduced, if not flat out thrownout. I don't think this hurts his legacy, he is still one of the greatest QB's of all time and the best of this generation.

When the news broke they were considering a suspension, I thought it would be in the 8-10 gm range, so in a way, he got off light. I don't think the million dollar fine hurts the Patriots, they will recoup that from Tom's suspension. The first round pick will more than likely be somewhere between pick 25-32 anyway, how much can it hurt, the Redskins never have a first round pick. tongue The fourth round could be costly because the truly great teams, like New England find their gems in the late rounds. I think it would have been ironic if they had taken a 6th round pick, like Tom.

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:38 am

after listening to the endless rhetoric about this case, I stand by my statement that tom brady may have told his guys that he wants the balls at 12.5 lbs, and if anything happened they took it upon themselves to deflate the balls. to me that's a huge IF, as most, if not all of the "deflation" could have been because of the conditions that day. The NFL could have gotten something out of this whole mess if they had been reasonable with the suspension, reasonable with the appeals hearing, or reasonable in the court case. i don't believe Brady did anything other than tell the ball boys that he wanted his footballs at the lowest levels and I wholeheartedly agree with the decision to vacate the suspension entirely.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:59 pm

annnd of course the NFL appeals, it just will not go away
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:59 pm

This is ludricous, the season starts one week from tonight, lets just get on with it and move on, I am sick about hearing, and discussing PSI of footballs. It clearly had no effect on the game, 45-17 says it all!

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:39 pm

FINALLY!!!!!IT'S FINALLY HERE!!!!! FOOOOOOOOTBALLLLLL IS BACK!!!!!! yay yay yay yay yay
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:31 am

tonight starts the Sam Bradford era

I can't wait to watch him play a (hopefully) whole game.

The off season was a little scary with all the changes that were made but it's "In Chip we trust" all the way.

GO BIRDS!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:50 am

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tonight starts the Sam Bradford era

I can't wait to watch him play a (hopefully) whole game.  

The off season was a little scary with all the changes that were made but it's "In Chip we trust" all the way.

GO BIRDS!!!!!!
just beat the Cowboys when you play them and i'll be happy, you can go 2-14 as long as you beat the gloryhole boys tongue
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:17 am

that's next week and I don't think they had much of a chance before; now they're down another guy.


Bradford is out wild card right now - if he plays like we've been told he can, we should have a great season. It could be our time.


(leave me alone - I've had a miserable baseball season - we need a winner!)
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:52 am

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that's next week and I don't think they had much of a chance before; now they're down another guy.


Bradford is out wild card right now - if he plays like we've been told he can, we should have a great season.  It could be our time.


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tongue i'm familiar with that
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:16 pm

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:41 pm

Yes, Thank God Football is here , and the Packers look great!

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:04 pm

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Yes, Thank God Football is here , and the Packers look great!
dude, they played the bears tongue
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:22 pm

1, down, 18 to go! Cool

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:25 pm

Ugh. Eagles not looking good to start. Actually going backwards.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:19 pm

Preseason can be deceiving

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:36 pm

They've improved since the first quarter.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:46 pm

They dont want any of Green Bay

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:54 pm

Settle down.  It's only week one.

I forgot how stressful games were.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:36 pm

I am settled, The Packers are the one team to return everyone from last year, the will win it all, mark my words!

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:06 am

Ez wrote:
I am settled, The Packers are the one team to return everyone from last year, the will win it all, mark my words!


ok, you've been marked tongue

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:19 am

Cool

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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:31 am

Ez wrote:
Yes, Thank God Football is here , and the Packers look great!
well, the beat the seahawks, which is slightly better than the bears

there is going to be an implosion in seattle soon, I can feel it, too many big personalities on the team, and a coach who wants to betheir friend, it works fine when you're winning, but when you're losing the wheels fall off pretty quickly. mark my wrds there will be more and more dischord on that team unless they start winning again.
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PostSubject: Re: NFL 2015   Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:32 am

The eagles looked awful yesterday, but they did manage to break romo again. too bad there isn't any other team in that division who can take advantage of the situation.
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