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PostSubject: living it up in the 80s   Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:23 pm

a thread dedicated to the GENIUS of the 80s music. I will try to avoid the popular ones everyone knows for the more obscure stuff. anyone contribute if you wish  yay




(released in 90 but written in the 80s)




(miss you David)(beep beep)






(blew my and my friends minds the first time we heard this, it was so WEIRD)






(I know, popular. can't help it, love this tune.)


(our dumb little local band covered this, moi on keyboards)

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:52 pm

Oh i know of about 8000 tons of phenomenal metal and punk from the 80's, not to mention the birth of "alternative" music and the early industrial stuff, including the first Nine Inch Nails album, which many people don't realize was released in 1989.
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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:45 am

Mo post those youtubes up if you wanna
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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:47 pm

LOUD please.










totally fell in love with Debra Winger




(Heart switching over to the ballad phase of their career)


(mrs ocasek there. humina.)










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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:25 pm

Well, it sure as hell won't be a single post. The 80's was a huge era for metal. Previous to 1980, heavy metal had primarily been categorized as blues based rock that used heavy crunchy timbres and fairly dark subject matter.

The breakup of Black Sabbath would lead to what i consider to be the single most important album in the history of heavy metal: Ozzy Osbourne's first solo album, Blizzard of Ozz. Guitarist Randy Rhodes and his bandmates Quiet Riot had been playing around in the studio with the idea of adding classical sytle guitar work to heavy metal music, but they hadn't yet worked out a way to do it.

Ozzy believed strongly in the concept, and supposedly wanted to showcase not only the concept, but Rhodes' capabilities at it as well. In fact, Ozzy's first album includes a track which is simply Rhodes playing his classical acoustic guitar in studio without accompaniment. Rhodes dedicated the song to and named it after his grandmother, Dee:



The album also included the song everybody knows, Crazy Train, and the equally controversial Suicide Solution, both of which were and are frequently misunderstood. It also contains an environmental activism song, a lament about Alistair Crowley, the widely-loved ballad Goodbye To Romance, a couple marginal songs, and one of my own personal favorites, the often overlooked and underappreciated Steal Away (The Night)...



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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:16 pm

Ah.  The 80's.  The era of old school black male power ballads, wet piano comps and synth driven dance music.

I liked it.

So, here are a handful of personal favorites that always come to mind for me when anyone says 80s.

Feel free to chide and deride. I don't care.

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:07 am

BTW - did you all know that Murray Head is actually Anthony Stewart Head's (Giles from Buffy) brother?
Dunno bout obscure, but here's some lesser known 80s gems....





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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:11 pm

some great choices there guys, proud of my 80 fan mates.
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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:52 am

Del - picking off a LOT of my faves in those last ones.

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:25 pm

i put on youtube yesterday and it just kept cranking out 80's tunes

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:00 pm

80's Metal brought us hair bands, speedmetal, thrash, crossover, and glam (not to be confused with Hair bands).

There were thriving underground scenes in punk, new wave, and the aftorementioned crossover.

One of my favorite "difficult to classify" bands was The Cars, who could be found in the vinyl collections of many fans of several of the aforementioned categories. But you guys should realy already know all about them. Another great one was Red Kross.

From the seminal underground film The Slog Movie, here they are at Santa Monica Pier in '82. Enjoy!

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:19 pm

Corey Hart is NOT valid according to Del. Hates Rush, hates Corey Hart....getting strong anti Canadian vibes.





(very not PC)


(one of the better music matchups with a tv show)












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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:24 pm

I didnt say i hated corey hart

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:32 pm

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I didnt say i hated corey hart

ah somebody did, when I was talking about Canadians. something about leaving him on the dust pile.
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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:47 pm

This is not technically 80's(78) its a band from my hometown. I went to elementary school with the singer
and the Bass player is the older brother of a high school friend. They made 4 albums before they broke up in 83. I happened to run into Dan (the bass player) 2 Saturdays ago in North Vancouver he is 2 years older than me and looks like a little old man

here is Stonebolt in all their 70's glory


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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:12 pm

By far the most innovative handcore punk band of the late 70s and early 80s was The Minutemen, so named because they never recorded a studio song that lasted more than one minute. They were constant touring companions of Black Flag through all of that bands many vocalists, until the tragic death of their own vocalist, D. Boone. Bassist Mike Watt had a very distinguished solo career.

There are a lot of great live versions of this song that are better for capturing the energy, but the studio version is still the only version i've found with fully audible lyrics. I could cross-post this in the Bad Music For People thread due to its message.

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:24 pm

I suppose Black Flag deserves a post as well. This band had so many members over the years they put Jefferson Airplne -> Starship to shame. The one constant was the primary songwriter Greg Ginn, who took time at every station except vocalist. This is the band that made Henry Rollins famous. He was just a scrawny fanboy with no tattoos who jumped up on stage and sang along. He knew all the lyrics, Greg loved his energy, and Greg and Dez hadn't been getting along lately, so Greg hired Henry on the spot to finish the tour as the new singer, or so the legend goes. Dez later rejoined the band playing guitar.

I like some of Rollins Band stuff from the 90s, but i thought he was a dud as a BF singer. JMO, but i'd rather post some of Dez's stuff. I can find live vid of Henry when he first joined BF if anybody doesn't believe that he was once a 98 pound kid with no tattoos.


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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:37 pm

Mentioning Mike Watt, for some reason, always makes be think of Brian Ritchie, another amazing bass player from the same era, though the music is vastly different.

While punk and metal were evolving in the early 80s, there was something else going on too, something so far out of established genre norms that the people whose jobs it was to pigeonhole music were left with no alternative except the label "alternative," a label which would explode in popularity a decade later.

An outstanding early example is the Violent Femmes, bassist Brian Ritchie, whose debut album was released in 1983. Here's a great live performance of a song from that album, performed at Auckland's His Majestys Theatre. This is from the last live performance at that theatre before its demolition in 1988.



I got to see They Might Be Giants open for the Violent Femmes at SUNYAlbany in 1995 or '96. It was a great show.
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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:45 pm

Punk and New Wave were big in Canada too, and as much as the world knows about the UK bands SubHumAns and their sequel Citizen Fish, the world should know about the Canadian band Subhumans as well. They certainly weren't as prolific but they were pretty damned good.

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:00 pm

The Grateful Dead spent most of the 80s touring incessantly, but they increased their musical repertoire and their devoted following immensely, and they did release one new studio album during the decade, and it was a winner. Here's a nice version of one of the cuts....

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:06 pm

Gerry Hannah aka Useless of the Vancouver Subhumans went on to become an "urban Guerrilla"
he and 4 others called themselves Direct Action and went on a bombing spree
they finally got caught when they drove a stolen pick up loaded with 1200 lbs of dynamite from
Vancouver to Toronto to blow up Litton Industries a company that made guidance systems for
American Cruise Missiles. The bomb went off prematurely and didn't destroy much but a bunch of people were injured. He got 10 years in the pokey.

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:13 pm

Holy shit i never knew that. Well, he made some damn good music before all that.
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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:15 pm

Frank Zappa, meanwhile, increased his frenetic pace during the 80s and was all over the musical map, releasing many of his most critically acclaimed works. From the brilliant social commentary of the Joe's Garage trilogy (among many others, most notably (imo) Thing-Fish and Broadway The Hard Way) to the amazing Jazz From Hell, which was written and performed entirely by Zappa himself on a musical instrument he designed and built himself - the synclavier, which would drive the industry into making it obsolete within a decade, to finally earning recognition for classical style composition including a performance at London's Royal Opera Hall accompanied a full symphonic orchestra (with whom he was extremely unpleased).

He also released music which would have probably earned considerable domestic commercial success had it not had his name on it. But it sold well in Europe at least.

Here's a beautiful instrumental piece from Joe's Garage Part III

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:31 pm

David Bowie was also quite active in the 80s, though imo his material wasn't as consistently good as it had been in the 60's and 70's. One of my personal favorites is this rare multilingual version of Heroes/Helden, from the soundtrack for the movie Christiane F. I've always enjoyed the song, but there's just something about this particular version that makes it my favorite.

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:58 pm

I promised to post more about the metal in the 80s too. Metal evolved incredibly over the decade, starting as i previously noted as basically just a dark and crunchy sort of blues, but the addition of classical themes blew the gates open for experimentation in the field, and while it certainly wouldn't be impossible to catalogue everything, i'll just stick to the stuff that i know and enjoy, and try to explain why it was something new or amazing at the time.

Although not generally recognized as a crossover band, the early Motley Crue albums were metal from a structural standpoint but many songs utilized three chord hooks, which is sort of the punk rock standard, and Tommy Lee often used a more "open" or "sloppy" style that would have felt right at home with some spikes and a mohawk. I'll show you what i mean...





The Crue was also interesting in that their lead guitarist was the least outspoken member of the band, and the rhythm section tended to do most of the talking.

Nikki Sixx was hardly alone in being both a bassist and songwriter for a heavy metal band at the time. Let us never forget the PMRC (Parents' Music Resource Center, Tipper Gore's pet project) and probably their favorite target of all time, the largely forgotten but pretty damned good band W.A.S.P.



The other major bassist songwriter of the era i'll note is the most significant of the three, but Iron Maiden deserves their own post.
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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:00 pm

the 80's weren't all punk,new wave and synth pop


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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:23 pm

What to say about Iron Maiden? They epitomized British 80s metal in so many ways, excepting scandals and breakups. They had far too many great songs in the early 80s to bother listing, so i'll just pick one that i think has held up particularly well through the intervening decades.

Here's the official video for their seminal 1982 song Run To The Hills...



Through the mid 80s, there was probably no single bigger issue dividing the fan base as the use of synthesizers. Many fans derided bands who used synths as poseurs. As late as 1984, Iron Maiden albums proudly proclaimed on the back of the album, "No synthesizers or ulterior motives were used in the making of this album."

So when they finally decided to cross the line, they went all in on it, and the result was Somewhere In Time, quite possibly Steve Harris's magnum opus as a songwriter. The entire album is a masterpiece, but i'll pick just one song to showcase the new sound.

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:28 pm

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the 80's weren't all punk,new wave and synth pop

 

SO true, Del, and i LOVE Robert Cray. At one point i think i had five of his vinyls.

I'm certainly not trying to say that the 80s were dominated by any particular genre or even group of genres, though i think most of what i've posted didn't get much airplay during the 80s, and i plan to go a whole bunch deeper on some of the importantly influential bands of the 80s that saw virtually no recognition in the mainstream. I don't think Zappa nor Bowie was punk new wave or pop either, for what it's worth.

This guy had a big hit with something that was outside those genres too.

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:44 pm

And let us not forget the rise of Rap!



The Sugarhill gang was the first to have a Rap song hit the Top 40. Though released in 1979, Rapper's Delight hit in 1980. Following not far behind was Blondie's Rapture.





More on 80s Rap later.
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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:36 pm









(one of the best 80s CDs)








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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:49 pm

(a personal fave, I always loved DLR)
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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:56 pm

A lot of 80s metal bands used Satanic and/or occult imagery in an attempt to be controversial.

There was at least one band that captured attention by trying to promote a strongly Christian ethos in a genre that was almost definitionally hedonistic: Stryper. No pathetic attempt at a rambling incomplete history of 80s music i remember that might have escaped the notice of other folks could be properly incomplete without the (untrue) rumour that Stryper was opening on a 15 stop US tour for Slayer in 1987. It was to be called the Heaven then Hell tour. Rumour had it that on the first night, Stryper played their first song and were about 15 seconds into their second song when Slayer ran out from backstage, kicked their asses, trashed their instruments, then set up and played a double set. It was all total bullshit, none of it had ever happened, but it was a great story. It was kinda believable, even.



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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:05 pm

Ah, The Dead Milkmen... another "alternative" 80s cornerstone. I used to know dozens of their songs by heart; one of my favorite was always Stuart.



And i love David Lee Roth too, i bought both of his solo tapes after the split, loved Just Like Paradise especially. Steve Vai trained for guitar under Zappa and played for Zappa in studio and on tour, fyi. cool

Shit, everybody's contributing great stuff to this thread.
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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:20 pm

Van Halen was considered Heavy Metal back then. Shit, they were a heavy metal band back then.

A lot of 80s metal and punk bands changed their music significantly over future decades, but one really great L.A. punk band, X, who had Paul Reubens (Pee Wee Herman) as their videographer and Rick Manzarek from the Doors producing them, completely changed their style and released a really great country album in the 80s. The title track was actually a top ten hit...

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By the time this album was made, the band had formed, the two singers (Exene and John Doe, who also plays bass) had fallen in love, gotten married, had a shitty marriage, split up, divorced acrimoniously, and kept the band together the whole time. With all that in mind, the next song, also from See How We Are, is one of my personal favorites...

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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:23 am

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Ah, The Dead Milkmen... another "alternative" 80s cornerstone. I used to know dozens of their songs by heart; one of my favorite was always Stuart.

And i love David Lee Roth too, i bought both of his solo tapes after the split, loved Just Like Paradise especially. Steve Vai trained for guitar under Zappa and played for Zappa in studio and on tour, fyi. cool

Shit, everybody's contributing great stuff to this thread.

The Milkmen always cracked me up.

And I had DLR's first solo tape as well, Vai sounding great. I didn't know that about Zappa, very cool. And Dave was just a natural frontman, so entertaining.

Why do I tie Billy Idol to X?? Is there a connection there
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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:01 pm

(such a fun happy tune, love it)




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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:35 pm

Billy Idol was in a Brit punk band called Generation X


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PostSubject: Re: living it up in the 80s   Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:50 pm

ah, mystery solved, thanks Del. that woulda bugged me awhile!
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