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PostSubject: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:15 am

Premieres tonite. Any one else excited? I loved the original, and even enjoy the dopey movie.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:28 pm

seriously they brought that back too

is there not an original idea in Hollywood anymore

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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:51 pm

syfy seems to be trying new ideas, but yeah hollyweird is big on re-treading stuff they know was popular years past.

case in point - Hellboy reboot. I'm excited for it as a Hellboy fan, but I wish Ron P was still doing it (I'm thinking he feels too old now to do it, understandably.)
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:38 pm

funny enough my first s/n was ecapsnitsol
Danger Danger Will Robinson
Robbie the Robot was originally in the movie Forbidden Planet the best syfy movie of the 50's IMO
and it still stands up well today

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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:53 pm

"first s/n" can you please translate
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:01 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:01 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:01 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:05 pm

ah. got ya. did you like the movie
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:21 pm

which movie?

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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:04 pm

Lost in space or hellboy
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:30 pm

Lost In Space movie sucked never saw Hellboy

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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:15 pm

I think if it's 5 years old it's considered a classic and ready for a remake. Look at the Fantastic 4 and Spiderman remakes.. damn, it makes my head spin. It's like when you re-recorded on a tape cassette and each recording has less quality, same with Hollywood and their remakes.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:56 pm

Does Billy "You're a Bad Man!" Mumy have a cameo in this series?

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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:01 pm

Hey I noticed that Parker Posey is in this .. man, did I have a crush on her.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:26 pm

The original Hellboy movie is great fun. I liked the sequel too.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:46 am

Ah...memories, the roommates back in the day. Dave and I kicking it in his room, Steve and Tex returning from a trip to Blockbuster. Steve walks into Dave's room and announces "Tex got Lost in Space.", not missing a beat Dave says "...and you just HAD to find him and bring him back." But I could spent hours regaling you with witticisms from those days...

I hope the rebooted series is half decent. The movie was what led me the concept of "If the spent half as much on writers as they did on effects they might have had a good movie", or as Dave put it, "Mind-blowing visuals but plot holes big enough to drive an Imperial Star Destroyer through." Look...the Robinsons get in the ship, hit the green button, *poof* they are thousands of light-years from where any human has ever been before and they find a cute little Space Monkey..."Ohhhh Daddy...Can we keep it?" "Sure...it looks harmless enough. And we're in a family-friendly space adventure about time paradoxes, not a horror movie, so there's no way it's really a highly intelligent carnivorous beast that sees us as a month's worth of rations."
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:35 am

Two episodes in and so far it's fun. I like the robot. And Dr Smith? Omg what a menace to humanity.

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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:26 am

UGH well I am not enjoying it. could care less about any of the characters, none of them are getting me emotionally invested at ALL. in fact royally dislike the Judy character, snot nose know it all.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:08 pm

I sort of agree. The kids are sort of annoying and not particularly good actors. I didn't get the flash backs or their relevance in several cases. When is this supposed to be set? The house, furnishings and cars look contemporary? The CGI and planet settings are pretty good so I'll give it a couple more episodes to see if it gets better.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:39 pm

Well they’ve done a poor job of marketing this because this is the first
I’ve heard of it. i guess I missed the premier.


I don’t even see it mentioned here that this is a Netflix series.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:20 pm

Yep it's on Netflix. There you can see everything.

Episodes 1-4: I liked the pacing of the action and events generally. I think however we don't need as many snarky lines from Penny. Dr. Smith is doing a nimble tightrope act I suppose but the trouble with showing a lot of Dr. Smith's activities is that we know everything while the other characters know nothing and that equation can ultimately throw things way out of whack. Still like the robot. He's great. He needs some Rosetta Stone training though. Things might prove easier for everyone.  

Episode 5: Definitely too sloggy in leading up to the conclusion. Fewer conversations or near conversations would have helped. Also I think a couple of red shirt sacrifices might have helped at that conclusion when the episode was actually good. No red shirts in particular. A couple. Or some. The moment would have been even better.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:25 pm

I cracked up when Mom asked Will to repeat her question to the robot while they both were standing there. It reminded me of Galaxy Quest when Tim Allen had Sigourney Weaver repeat his questions to the computer and totally annoyed everyone and she says,  "I have one job to do on this ship and dammit I'm going to do it!", lol.

Oh btw, did you notice the Billy Mumy cameo in the first episode!  

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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:36 pm

I had no idea that was Billy Mumy! A good use of a cameo.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:52 pm

First ep in and I'm enjoying it. I'm expecting Will soon finds a hatch.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:34 pm

Episode 6 was pretty solid and symbolic. I enjoyed it. Episode 7 was symbolic too, especially in terms of how ironically the symbolism reflected the very slow pacing. Yo too much talking about nonsense spoils the action broth, to misquote a cliché.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:56 am

@MrBill60 wrote:
Does Billy "You're a Bad Man!" Mumy have a cameo in this series?


Mumy, of course, played Lennier in Babylon 5. That character was the retainer/assistant to Delenn, LOST's Crazy French Chick Mira Furlan. First time we see her, Sayeed comes to in Danielle's underground lair tied to a char, IIRC, I did not recognize her despite having watched Nan 5 all the way through at least three times by that point because eyebrows. Minbari don't have them so hers were shaved off, even after they gave Delenn hair.

Penny Robinson was played by Angela Cartright, her sister Veronica was The Beaver's first girlfriend and the only HUMAN female not named "Ripley" aboard the Nostromo. Prior to LiS she was Danny Thomas's step-daughter on Make Room For Daddy and then one of the Von Trapp brats, all that saccharine she could do a Southwest Airlines commercial..."Wanna get away?" I'll bet she jumps for the role when her agent told her the dynamic was "Annoying older sister who the cause of half of the problems on the show". Still, mildly annoyed that J. Michael Straczinsky never got her on Bab 5 as a Minbari. It would have been great.

Maureen was June Lockhart, we all know that. She was Timmy's mom on Lassie...I thought one of her better roles was on the episode of Magnum P.I. (It's safe to talk about this since Gertie didn't make the trip...don't need the ultimate Tom Sellick fangirl squeeeing out on us) aired in December of 1981. She and daughter Anne (Sci-fi cred, Sheba on Battlestar Galactica) played the same character 40 years apart, Jose and Miguel Ferrer also appeared. It occurs to me that we need a term for this. That is two generations of an acting family playing the same role. I propose calling it a "Delaware" after FBI Agent Canton Delaware, played by the Sheppards, Mark and William Morgan in the Doctor Who episodes The Impossible Astronaut and Day of the Moon. although they also played Captain Nemo in a 2010 big screen adaptation of Verne's Mysterious Island.

So...it's on Netflix. Another reason to pester the housemate into letting me go in halfsies on his account.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:35 am

The show is getting better, but Maureen's way domineering on John. There's strong personality, and then there's just keeping him in his place IMO. He feels less like a father and more an older child that Maureen feels she has to mother also.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:54 pm

Midway through ep 4 and this show still has its hooks in me. Thought I might get bored with the daily survival trials they face but LIS is pushing forward at a good pace with enough action and plot intrigue to keep me well entertained.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:37 pm

Episodes 8 through 10. There were some moments that were sort of exciting or touching, but I think these last three episodes could have tightened up into some other structure leading up to the finale climax. The one scene I sort of liked needed even more danger and carnage because the premise of it all was humorously ironic.  

As for Maureen being too bossy over John, I'd go further and say that their marriage story was a pretty weak element of the series. Their individual or joint relationship with their kids was better, but that could have been tightened too. The kids' stories were what interested me the most, and I think some beefing up of other characters with whom they might have had some affinity would have helped oh the momentum of the show.

The Dr. Smith story was better in the pre episode 6 half than in the post. I think Dr Smith's actions and motivations were too predictable after that. Even at a certain point in episode 10.

A wild card for me was Don West. I liked him. But sometimes his character involvement in the story worked and sometimes it didn't. I think that this was because he was often more interesting than the people around him.

Overall grade of the series: B minus/C plus. The best robot scenes approached A territory. All the humans wandered in the B and C territories. The story/stories wandered in B and C and occasionally into D to be honest. I must have liked the show enough because I semi binged it. But seriously I think it was mostly for the robot.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:15 pm

Ah, first sore spot for me with the show (well second. the Judy character is annoying, young, too smart for an 18 year old, and the show loves to dote on her. bah.) congrats. I will hold my opinions until everyone is all caught up.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:25 am

I kinda liked the show. Definitely more of a BSG style reimagining. To be fair, I don't have overly fond memories of the original. Thought it was a rather neat shout out to name the 'dr' June Harris. Was good seeing Black Sails' Toby Stephens in something else.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:44 pm

I don't mind it, it's decent. This pacifist thing of having no weapons is silly, considering they are exploring unknown worlds (I am not of the utopian frame of mind that the universe likes us.)
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:17 am

Hehe, love the airlock technology on the Resolute. Basically one button to open and close the door and a countdown and apparently no override on the inside of the airlock chamber, lol. I think there are families and kids on board and from what I can tell there's also no child-proofing. The kids play hide and seek and one of them decides that the airlock chamber would be a neat hiding place .. oops.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:13 pm

There is such a wide variety of similar techy flaws in this show that it's a pick 'em with regards to which one is the most eye-rollery. Most sci-fi tv shows are like that though.

I'm still on ep 6. Haven't had time to get farther but hoping today is the day. It's at the top of my watch list which comes quite unexpected. Wasn't even going to give this one a chance but I'm glad I did.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:21 pm

Agree BJ, but it gets better the more episodes in I get. I hope there's a season 2.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:03 am

Part way into episode 9, I'm still enjoying the show. Can't wait to see the miraculous endeavor that brings an apparently dead main character back to life. Certainly  it will be totally believable and realistic.

Sarcasm aside, with only an ep and a half left to watch in its inaugural reenvisoning,  I'm still  enjoying Lost In Space. The acting is carrying the show through what could be some total schlock if performed by lesser talent.

There a couple issues that are sticking in my craw though, of which I'm going to purge here so they don't taint my eagerness for the final stretch.

The first of which is Dr. Smith's confession to what she believes is a dead robot. I wouldn't think this clever, calculating character could be so careless. Sorry for the alliterative prose. So yeah, as soon as she did that I began imagining how the robot would play that back in some R2D2esque mannner, and then boom, she's exposed. Just stupid.

My second bitch regards the lost fuel. So the tanker carrying fuel they desperately need for their survival is laying on its side after a crash. Punctured by a large rock, the leakage is minimal as the offending rock is also acting as a plug. The tanker then gets raised back onto its wheels. Now their lifeblood, the fuel, is quickly pouring out of the side of the vehicle. All hope is lost, but only if you're hopeless. Same way you raised the tanker back up, just lay it down on it's other side, for heaven's sake people!!!  Alas, this simple plan was not considered. The hopeless remain hopeless.

Ok. Purge complete. On to more things I like.

Continuity of the small stuff. The injuries and glaring bruises that characters incur do not  quickly fade from episode to episode. The fact that this is something I noticed and was well pleased with is more of a sad commentary on the current method of tv show production than it is anything else, but still yay.

The characters aren't entirely one dimensional. Although their driving characteristic is most often what's on display, the glimpses we get into their fuller personalities, even the minor characters, really brings them to life. Gives the show a tone of realism to the degree that you really want to see what happens to these people.

I was not a fan of the original. I saw maybe two episodes 35 or so years ago. Thought it was stupid and never looked back. That's probably a good thing since my understanding is that, other than the character names and a few other vague similarities, this version of LIS is quite a different show. Can't wait to see how it finishes.
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PostSubject: Re: Lost in Space   Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:10 am

Regarding the tanker,

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