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PostSubject: Reverie   Wed May 30, 2018 12:37 pm

If Sarah Shahi kicks ass in it like she did in POI I'll have watch it.

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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Wed May 30, 2018 12:39 pm

I was wondering if anyone else had their eye on this. Looking forward to tonight's pilot episode.
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Wed May 30, 2018 8:37 pm

Thanks for making this thread. Loved Shahi in POI. Possibly the best character on the show. Never heard of Reverie til now but it sounds intriguing. I'll give the pilot a look.
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:19 pm

After two episodes, I have to admit, I'm liking it.

Shahi immediately draws you in as the lead character, Mara Kint. It's like her empathy with her "patients" reaches out and makes the viewer just as much a part of the dream as she is. I don't want to get hooked on another series but this one might just do that.

Anyone else catch any episodes yet?

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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:19 pm

I've seen them Sandi. I'm enjoying it but it's going to get old fast simply because of its episodic nature. Hopefully a good story arc will develop. Have seen only meager evidence of that so far but it's still early.
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:22 pm

I know what you mean Big John.  It could easily just be the dream of the week rescue which would become old very fast.  

There are several things I see that the show is using in an attempt avoid that.

  • Mara is experiencing "visions" after exiting the dream.  
  • The cold genius and her relationship with her dead twin brother/computer
  • The two person dream application and the possible government involvement with the program.  
  • The fact that the cold genius and her right hand man are withholding information about the program and some of its effects.


So, we'll cross our fingers on this one.
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:18 am

Yeah, the teasers are definitely there like they are in most shows of this nature nowadays and they'll probably flesh out at some point somewhere down the line. Still though, not the same as having a real story arc.

Imagine if Westworld teased us throughout season one that there is something amiss with the hosts but the show was more about the guest's adventures in the park. In that case, I'd rather just watch reruns of Fantasy Island.

Reverie has the potential to be more than just Fantasy Island of the mind. Let's Total Recall this show sooner rather than later is all I'm saying.
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:00 am

I agree. Funny you mention Total Recall. I liken this show to a mash-up of Total Recall, The Matrix and Dreamscape. I'm thinking the next couple of episodes will tell the tale.
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:16 pm

Is it possible that she's the one who's in a dream and everything we're being shown is part of her own fantasy?
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:05 pm

Well, while I don't think so -- anything is possible -- especially in the beginning.
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:57 am

Whoa...
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:58 am

@Big John wrote:
Is it possible that she's the one who's in a dream and everything we're being shown is part of her own fantasy?

@Big John wrote:
Whoa...

I must admit when Mara's trip to her sister and niece's apartment started to disintegrate, I had visions of it turning out to be Mara in a hospital bed, comatose and everything we had seen so far -- her fantasy. (And it could still turn out that way.) But it looks like she's having a problem with reality, which we suspected may happen.

What did you think about the assistant's library room of doors?

I'm thinking from his reluctance to share more door openings that each one of those doors leads to something he's afraid of and hasn't dealt with yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:05 pm

That room of doors could be interesting but not in relation to the assistant.

Have you been tracking in dream time versus real time? I was thinking about a possible application for this tech could be job training for any given skill set. How much time and energy could be saved by learning something in a fraction of the time it would take in the real world.

I don't know what to make of Mara's world falling apart. Excellent episode though. Sunk its hooks into me.
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:36 pm

@Big John wrote:
Have you been tracking in dream time versus real time?

No, I haven't.  It looks like you have and are saying less time is spent in the dreams then is actually passing in real time.  What's the ratio?

@Big John wrote:
That room of doors could be interesting but not in relation to the assistant

In relation to who then?  (I thought the assistant, Paul, (yes, I had to look it up - lol) said that the program created it for Paul based on what he needed?
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:15 pm

I haven't been tracking it but since dreams only last a moment, is the time she spends inside someone else's dream only a couple seconds? I mean, if she has to go in and rescue people because they have been in the application for so long, how many lifetimes could they be living in there?
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:15 am

My least favorite episode yet. The new character and twist he brings is interesting. However, he was so clumsily introduced that the resolution of events from the previous ep was very anti-climactic.

The derealization effect is extraordinarily interesting. I'd love to see how it manifests, slowly driving Mara into madness,
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:47 am

Finally caught up.

@Big John wrote:
The new character and twist he brings is interesting.

Oliver Hill, right?

I do believe that he was probably mentally compromised before entering 2.0, but I also think there's probably some truth to his version.  

We saw Mara beginning to experience derealization and she, unlike Oliver, didn't appear to have any mental instability (other than the deep-seated remorse and guilt over her family's death).  Not being able to distinguish virtual reality from physical reality would drive anyone into insanity, IMO.  Isn't that a definition of insanity anyway?

Oliver also stated the pills don't help.  We've seen evidence of that with Mara as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:55 pm

I thought this week's episode was a real tear-jerker.  I don't usually watch those.

The best part of this episode was the ending when Mara visits Ray, her brother-in-law and the guy that killed her sister and niece -- then botched the job of killing himself.

I wonder how often she visits him and quietly stares at him -- filled with hate?

We met Mara's love interest from back at that time -- Chris, the psychiatrist.  I don't believe for a moment that Mara would just shut him out without a reason.  What better time to lean on someone you love than at a time when you lose your sister and niece to violence like that.  Since Ray appeared crazy, I'm wondering if Chris was his psychiatrist and just like in this episode, maybe had some relevant information he wouldn't divulge because of the doctor/patient privacy issue -- information that may have saved Mara's sister and niece.  I bet that's what happened.

The preview for next week caught my eye.  Mara. in a one in a million chance, encounters someone unexpected during a trip inside -- and she gets shot -- and when she comes out -- she's still shot -- bleeding even!  I think that's interesting -- definitely.
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:54 pm

Another boring episode centered on a character we'll never see again.

Reverie is building too slowly for me. If the next ep is similar in formula to this one, I may opt out.
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:57 pm

@Big John wrote:
Another boring episode centered on a character we'll never see again.

Reverie is building too slowly for me. If the next ep is similar in formula to this one, I may opt out.

I hear you.   I am interested in Mara being shot inside Reverie and still remaining shot in real life.  That may liven things up.

Let me know if you opt out, so I don't talk to myself. blush
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PostSubject: Re: Reverie   Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:14 pm

lol

Agreed on her being shot. Actually, that leads me to wonder if Reverie could be used as an anesthetic of sorts. Like, if someone is going into surgery, give them Reverie instead of... whatever they use nowadays.

As far as Mara being shot in the show goes, if it moves the larger story forward in a big way, I'm all for it. I have a feeling though that it's just in there for dramatic purposes. My guess is that we'll gain a little bit more info about Reverie that could come into play later on, but otherwise it'll be just another Fantasy Island overdose ep.

Then the following ep Mara will rehab the injury, if it really does manifest in the here and now, and the ep after that she'll be  pretty much just fine.

Don't wanna waste time wading through all that though. I want more derealization and black ops shit!  cool
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