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PostSubject: character actors   Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:31 pm

I love love love hearing about character actors - people you recognize but aren't the big name stars.

Raymond Cruz, a great example.



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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:09 am

There's such a wide range of definitions for character actors.  Ned Beatty springs to mind (Hodge would be proud lol2 )  He's such a great character actor and because of that -- easily recognizable, and therefore, may not be the type or character actor you are looking for.  

It seems to me you want more of the actors who most people will recognize their faces and movies they've been in but probably won't know their names.  So, working off of that, my first suggestion would be ...




Can you name him or his movies?:
 
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:01 am

Guido the killer pimp!
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:54 am

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Guido the killer pimp!

That's some risky business there. hai
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:50 am

What do you get when you put one leading man and eleven great character actors in one room?

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How many of the eleven character actors do you recognize?

Juror #1



Juror #1 is ...:
 

Juror #2



Juror #2 is ...:
 

Juror #3




Juror #3 is ...:
 


Juror #4



Juror #4 is ...:
 

Juror #5



Juror #5 is ...:
 

Juror #6




Juror #6 is ...:
 

Juror #7



Juror #7 is ...:
 

Juror #8
Leading man -- Henry Fonda.  (Fonda was also the producer.  Although Fonda produced two tv series, 12 Angry Men was the only movie he ever produced.)

Juror #9



Juror #9 is ...:
 

Juror #10



Juror #10 is ...:
 

Juror #11



Juror #11 is ...:
 

Juror #12



Juror #12 is ...:
 
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:57 pm

I'm terrible with names but I recognized most of the faces. Oddly, Jack was the only name I could recall.

This guy's been showing up in a lot lately:

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:07 pm

Another great character actor who's more though of as a leading man in his later career:

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:12 pm

@Big John wrote:
I'm terrible with names but I recognized most of the faces. Oddly, Jack was the only name I could recall.

This guy's been showing up in a lot lately:


I don't know his name but I recognize him from this past season of Fargo.  (He had a mustache.)  He played Ewan McGregor's right hand man.  Really very good.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:20 pm

ahhh...when men were men (yep ducking already for the onslaught)

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:37 pm

and more men being men

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:50 am

juror #2 Jon Fiedler was Mr Peterson on The Bob Newhart Show

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:25 pm

I tried in vain to find the Cartoon Planet bit about "Be a man. Be a Klug-man." It was awesome.

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I used to think of Terry O'Quinn as a character actor, but i guess he's beyond that now.

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How about Leon Robinson? I thought he shined brightest as Jefferson Keane/Tizi Ouzou on Oz, but he's had several other solid character roles.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:49 am

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How about Leon Robinson? I thought he shined brightest as Jefferson Keane/Tizi Ouzou on Oz, but he's had several other solid character roles.

lotta good character actors on Oz, several of whom gone on to be fairly big stars. Funny you don't see the guy who played Beecher in anything that I know of.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:04 pm

Zaphod, I’m not sure if your comment was meant as a knock at acting on tv, since Lee Tergesen has done plenty of work on numerous series since his Oz days. For Sandi and Big John --  https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/movies/michael-stuhlbarg-call-me-by-your-name-shape-of-water.html

If you’re going to include Downey Jr., then the late great Harry Dean Stanton shouldn't be excluded by his leading role in Paris, Texas and starring in (and basically being the whole point of) Lucky.  Ditto Sam Rockwell, despite his lead in Lawn Dogs  and his tour-de-force in Moon – though I guess his recent Oscar win bumps him “up” to “supporting actor.”
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:26 pm

Nope, not a knock at all - just that I apparently don't watch the shows Mr. Tergesen is on. I've seen most of the other actors on other shows and movies. I DO wish Dean Winters would stop with all the insurance commercials and get back on more shows.

Sam I can't say is a character actor, I think he's stepped up to fairly big star. HDS was great, but considering the roles he did, he seemed more comfortable in the character role.

I probably shoulda defined character actor better - I meant it more in non-leading/ not directly supporting roles, rather than just actors who's faces you don't recognize. Half the Sting cast is some really great character actors, IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:48 pm

I think part of the (planned) effectiveness of The Sting was that the audience would recognize the actors but not remember from where, they’d just feel familiar.

Maybe the term “character actor” doesn't fit with how movies are made nowadays. The term may depend on the old studio system. Some actors who would have been pegged in certain kinds smaller of roles get to be leads in indies, or play lead inside prosthetics and/or mo-cap, like Andy Serkis and Doug Jones. Most of the actors working currently that I'd consider in the "character" category are just as likely to play a supporting role. Maybe it's that now "support" can include the kind of eccentricity that used to mark "character" parts.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:34 pm

@Pi-O-My wrote:
If you’re going to include Downey Jr., then the late great Harry Dean Stanton shouldn't be excluded by his leading role in Paris, Texas and starring in (and basically being the whole point of) Lucky.  Ditto Sam Rockwell, despite his lead in Lawn Dogs  and his tour-de-force in Moon – though I guess his recent Oscar win bumps him “up” to “supporting actor.”

Agreed. All amazing character actors. Another great one who is also a leading man is Johnny Depp. From Edward Scissorhands, Gilbert Grape, and Ed Wood to Jack Sparrow, The Mad Hatter, and Tonto, the guy is ever so brilliant.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:56 pm

M EMMETT WALSH, DENNIS HOPPER,JOHN MALKOVICH,PETER LORRE,ELI WALLACH,PETE POSTLETHWAITE ,CHARLES NAPIER,HAROLD GOULD,J.T.WALSH,WARD BOND

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:16 pm

I'd add Christopher Walken and George Kennedy to that list.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:44 pm

Charles Dance? Cillian Murphy?
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:45 am

Danny Trejo

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:25 am

my man Trejo, a personal fave. will watch anything he's in. and an inspiring life story, if you read his background.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:36 am

how bout this guy


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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:44 am

don't recog the face?

does Paxton qualify, or is he too well known

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:28 pm

Robert Tessier was a villain or biker in most of his films
he was a good guy in THE DEEP though.

His first film was also the first Billy Jack film The Born Losers

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:33 pm

the amazing Rachel Weiss (wife of our Daniel Craig). just grrrr

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:34 pm

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how bout this guy


Wasn't he also the German (in Raiders of the Lost Ark) who was fighting Jones and wound up getting cut up by the propeller blades? I'm not sure.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:35 pm

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Robert Tessier was a villain or biker in most of his films
he was a good guy in THE DEEP though.

His first film was also the first Billy Jack film The Born Losers

Del you are either old like moi or a real movie fan
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:47 pm

@sandi wrote:
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how bout this guy


Wasn't he also the German (in Raiders of the Lost Ark) who was fighting Jones and wound up getting cut up by the propeller blades?  I'm not sure.

No he wasn't in Raiders

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:48 pm

@Zaphod wrote:
@ExpletiveDeleted wrote:
Robert Tessier was a villain or biker in most of his films
he was a good guy in THE DEEP though.

His first film was also the first Billy Jack film The Born Losers

Del you are either old like moi or a real movie fan

you're not old

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:38 pm

Michael Biehn - shows up in a lot of Cameron films, but he does a variety of characters.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:34 pm

@sandi wrote:
@ExpletiveDeleted wrote:
how bout this guy


Wasn't he also the German (in Raiders of the Lost Ark) who was fighting Jones and wound up getting cut up by the propeller blades?  I'm not sure.
I thought he looks a lot like Mike from Breaking Bad. Not that it's the same guy, but they could be cousins at least.

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Michael Biehn - shows up in a lot of Cameron films, but he does a variety of characters.
Biehn gets a lot of lead work, though. I enjoy his work a lot, some of his more recent stuff has been good too btw. I don't really think of him as a character actor, jmo though.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:55 pm

This guy seems like he's in everything.

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:23 am

I recognize both of those faces, BJ -- but I don't know their names.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:11 am

Top one is Stephen Tobolosky (sp?). Dunno on the 2nd one.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:26 pm

@His Royal Dorkness wrote:
@sandi wrote:
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how bout this guy


Wasn't he also the German (in Raiders of the Lost Ark) who was fighting Jones and wound up getting cut up by the propeller blades?  I'm not sure.
I thought he looks a lot like Mike from Breaking Bad. Not that it's the same guy, but they could be cousins at least.

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:38 pm

This guy's showing up in everything too.

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:05 pm

This young lady, who you surely recognize, used to be in every movie under the sun and yet it is a challenge to name one.

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:42 pm

hmmm....gonna need a clue for her, not recoging the face
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:52 pm

@Big John wrote:
This young lady, who you surely recognize, used to be in every movie under the sun and yet it is a challenge to name one.


You only need one -- Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:07 am

That is correct, Sandi! It was arguably her biggest rile. The only film I could remember her from is Slap Shot.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:14 pm

@sandi wrote:
@Big John wrote:
This young lady, who you surely recognize, used to be in every movie under the sun and yet it is a challenge to name one.


You only need one -- Close Encounters of the Third Kind.  

Melinda Dillon. The only other film I've seen her in is "Absence of Malice".
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:29 pm

@Big John wrote:
@His Royal Dorkness wrote:
@sandi wrote:
@ExpletiveDeleted wrote:
how bout this guy


Wasn't he also the German (in Raiders of the Lost Ark) who was fighting Jones and wound up getting cut up by the propeller blades?  I'm not sure.
I thought he looks a lot like Mike from Breaking Bad. Not that it's the same guy, but they could be cousins at least.

Dang, that IS Mike the Fixer from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. I don't remember the actor's name.

I think the guy with the gun is from that Keaton/Nicholson/Basinger/Burton Batman movie. The character is one of Nicholson's lackeys, if i'm right. No idea what his name is or anything else he's played in.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:43 am

That's Jonathan Banks, and speaking of him, S4 of Better Call Saul premieres tonight.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:06 am

@MrBill60 wrote:
That's Jonathan Banks, and speaking of him, S4 of Better Call Saul premieres tonight.

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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:41 pm

not to quibble, but don't think that J Banks, BJ..eyes don't match up
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:48 pm

I'd like to refer you back to a comment I recently made about you but I fear it will not be received well, again.
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PostSubject: Re: character actors   Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:02 pm

lol if i'm wrong just tell me, i just think that's a diff actor. i'm fine if you point out i'm wrong, happens often!!
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