Revolution

ladycolleen wrote:

Some of the fans are saying solar flare. But, that's not it.

http://tvline.com/2012/07/24/nbc-revolution-burning-questions-answered/

I am guessing a group of scientists (maybe working for the military) invented a way to shut down anything using electricity, unless you had what they had created to block it. Similar to the book The Trigger by Arthur C. Clarke. Does not explain why you could not use a diesel engine though....

Ez wrote:

I loved Flash forward and Jericho(CBS)

Me too.

iwantmycrayons wrote:

I liked it too, i'm willing to wait to see if they ever explain why the batteries don't work, why the rifles are muzzleloaders but the "I'm On a Horse" guy has a pistol that works, and how Charlie manages to have a designer leather outfit that looks like she just picked it up at kohl's before the day started

lol, yeah, I thought that as well, Charlie and others were extremely well dressed for people who have not had access to a store, in a long time.


Yeah, the militia people are way better equipped then the people living in villages.

I like that, I'm on a Horse Guy, that will be his name, until, I know it will be picked up.

Why did the older dude, in AC/DC shirt, not give Charlie, or hot uncle Miles the pendant (?)

blondie wrote:

downed planes? check

mysterious computer exchanges? check

starting over in the world looking for others? check



sounds like JJ

lol, but none of the planes had a logo on them.

I liked the Event, and I was pissed when they cancelled it. Same with Alcetraz (sp)

Goof wrote:

JJ wrote:

I hate that it's on NBC....the same network that canceled The Event....I like it a lot.

Yeah I miss the Event and Flash Forward (ABC).

Me too. Meany head, people.

Avalon wrote:

To me, the pilot was a bit busy. By that I mean it seemed like they were trying too hard to grab your attention and keep it. I would like to see a flashback style ala Lost, and hope they go for character development rather than ninja style fight scenes. Keep the reveals keeping us on the edge of our seats. I know they have to grab viewership, but a good story keeps me more interested than a click of superheroes.

I agree, someone on FB, said it should have been a 2 hour premiere, and we get a bit more background on the characters.

Iggy wrote:

Avalon wrote:

To me, the pilot was a bit busy. By that I mean it seemed like they were trying too hard to grab your attention and keep it. I would like to see a flashback style ala Lost, and hope they go for character development rather than ninja style fight scenes. Keep the reveals keeping us on the edge of our seats. I know they have to grab viewership, but a good story keeps me more interested than a click of superheroes.

I agree, someone on FB, said it should have been a 2 hour premiere, and we get a bit more background on the characters.

Yes, it felt rushed, and you need time to establish characters.

Avalon wrote:

ladycolleen wrote:

Some of the fans are saying solar flare. But, that's not it.

http://tvline.com/2012/07/24/nbc-revolution-burning-questions-answered/

I am guessing a group of scientists (maybe working for the military) invented a way to shut down anything using electricity, unless you had what they had created to block it. Similar to the book The Trigger by Arthur C. Clarke. Does not explain why you could not use a diesel engine though....

I agree with you, about the scientists and or military, Miles "friend" (Morgan) only had to show his tattoo/scar to the guard gate, and he was allowed onto the base. Kinda suspect to me.

The lady in the attic, contacting someone else, on a computer via the "pendant" thingy. I think she is in contact with Charlies mom. (lol I wrote Juliette and then fixed it)

I think this because, I want to see more of Elizabeth Mitchell.

The battery thing still bugs the crap out of me.

I want to see more of Elizabeth Mitchell too


The battery and diesel thing bugs me too . Batteries are a chemical reaction.

ladycolleen wrote:

Some of the fans are saying solar flare. But, that's not it.

http://tvline.com/2012/07/24/nbc-revolution-burning-questions-answered/

thank you Colleen.

Avalon wrote:

I want to see more of Elizabeth Mitchell too


The battery and diesel thing bugs me too . Batteries are a chemical reaction.

LOL, you just want to see her boobs.

The writers/who ever made up this show, say it was not a solar flare (EMP), so what could happen that would disable, electronics, batteries, and vehicles that do not have computer chips in them?

From what I have read, an EMP, would not effect vehicles that did not have computer chips in them, to include older tractors and cars (that are still on the road today)

I really hope they give us a reason for batteries not working, cause that bugs the hell out of me.

Iggy wrote:

Avalon wrote:

I want to see more of Elizabeth Mitchell too


The battery and diesel thing bugs me too . Batteries are a chemical reaction.

LOL, you just want to see her boobs.

The writers/who ever made up this show, say it was not a solar flare (EMP), so what could happen that would disable, electronics, batteries, and vehicles that do not have computer chips in them?

From what I have read, an EMP, would not effect vehicles that did not have computer chips in them, to include older tractors and cars (that are still on the road today)

I really hope they give us a reason for batteries not working, cause that bugs the @#!*% out of me.

And diesels

Exactly.

even on Gilligans Island the professor was able to re-charge batteries, without electricity.


LOL, we are so picky, I suspended belief when it came to things that happened on LOST, but I will nit pick a new show.

Yup, I agree.


My dad had an old make and break engine , 3 horsepower, no electricity. You started it by spinning the flywheel with your foot

I will annoy everyone until insanity




Plotholes

iwantmycrayons wrote:

blondie wrote:

dvr is set

I am betting this show would retire men in your profession


Any other skills ?

As far as the engines not working, Eric says that the physicist he consulted with says the premise is possible. So, whatever it is, apparently it could really happen.

In the article, as far as what does not work, Eric says:

“Anything that throws a spark, any circuit that carries an electrical charge…. That’s the simple, clean rule,” said Kripke. “That means batteries and spark plugs, engines….”

So, it's not just about electricity.

ladycolleen wrote:

As far as the engines not working, Eric says that the physicist he consulted with says the premise is possible. So, whatever it is, apparently it could really happen.

In the article, as far as what does not work, Eric says:

“Anything that throws a spark, any circuit that carries an electrical charge…. That’s the simple, clean rule,” said Kripke. “That means batteries and spark plugs, engines….”

No spark plugs in a diesel. No circuits, No batteries needed if you have a standard shift. Just compression.

Here's a comment from the consulting physicist:

The “Revolution” writers did call on the physicist David Saltzberg, a consultant on the CBS sitcom “The Big Bang Theory,” scientifically to assess their secret rationale for the blackout. According to Mr. Kripke, Mr. Saltzberg told them the plot “is absolutely possible” and called it “amazing.” Mr. Saltzberg declined an interview request.

Iggy wrote:

Avalon wrote:

ladycolleen wrote:

Some of the fans are saying solar flare. But, that's not it.

http://tvline.com/2012/07/24/nbc-revolution-burning-questions-answered/

I am guessing a group of scientists (maybe working for the military) invented a way to shut down anything using electricity, unless you had what they had created to block it. Similar to the book The Trigger by Arthur C. Clarke. Does not explain why you could not use a diesel engine though....

I agree with you, about the scientists and or military, Miles "friend" (Morgan) only had to show his tattoo/scar to the guard gate, and he was allowed onto the base. Kinda suspect to me.

The lady in the attic, contacting someone else, on a computer via the "pendant" thingy. I think she is in contact with Charlies mom. (lol I wrote Juliette and then fixed it)

I think this because, I want to see more of Elizabeth Mitchell.

The battery thing still bugs the crap out of me.

I don't believe she's dead - she's has to be hiding somewhere

blondie wrote:

Iggy wrote:

Avalon wrote:

ladycolleen wrote:

Some of the fans are saying solar flare. But, that's not it.

http://tvline.com/2012/07/24/nbc-revolution-burning-questions-answered/

I am guessing a group of scientists (maybe working for the military) invented a way to shut down anything using electricity, unless you had what they had created to block it. Similar to the book The Trigger by Arthur C. Clarke. Does not explain why you could not use a diesel engine though....

I agree with you, about the scientists and or military, Miles "friend" (Morgan) only had to show his tattoo/scar to the guard gate, and he was allowed onto the base. Kinda suspect to me.

The lady in the attic, contacting someone else, on a computer via the "pendant" thingy. I think she is in contact with Charlies mom. (lol I wrote Juliette and then fixed it)

I think this because, I want to see more of Elizabeth Mitchell.

The battery thing still bugs the crap out of me.

I don't believe she's dead - she's has to be hiding somewhere

I agreee, when he came into the house in the beginning, she definitely knew what was going on, she said, it's happening,or it's starting, so she knows what was going on. i think she took off when the kids were young on purpose to make sure they were split up and that they wouldn't be caught togehter.

yes, exactly

Yes! I think/hope she is still around.

So, what kind of event would have to happen, to prevent batteries from working?

I did a quick search, and no where did I find a reason for batteries to stop working, except for if they got wet, or run down (over used, or not used at all) batteries have a shelf live. For them to stop working, is really confusing me. And, since, I cannot find a reason, bugging the crap out of me. It does not make sense.

And to stop combustional (sp) engines from working. In the event of an EMP, they would still work.

Iggy wrote:

Yes! I think/hope she is still around.

So, what kind of event would have to happen, to prevent batteries from working?

I did a quick search, and no where did I find a reason for batteries to stop working, except for if they got wet, or run down (over used, or not used at all) batteries have a shelf live. For them to stop working, is really confusing me. And, since, I cannot find a reason, bugging the crap out of me. It does not make sense.

And to stop combustional (sp) engines from working. In the event of an EMP, they would still work.

not sure about the batteries, but almost all engines have electronic ignitions right now, so almost all of them would not work an EMp would get into the wiriing and overload all the circuit boards and burn them out. of course it would probably do that to the computer that black woman was using too. I guees , like all JJ abrams shows, we will wait patiently for an answer. i'm quite sure he won't just expect us to know the answer and never explain WTF is going on, noone would ever do that on a TV show

Avalon wrote:

iwantmycrayons wrote:

blondie wrote:

dvr is set

I am betting this show would retire men in your profession


Any other skills ?

I can cook, oh and i can sew designer leather outfits that stay like new for years and years and years also i can

oh and I got my DVR Back annnnd it holds almost twice as much as the older one we had

iwantmycrayons wrote:

oh and I got my DVR Back annnnd it holds almost twice as much as the older one we had

excellent!

I'm thinking even if battery powered stuff worked right after the black out, it would all get used up in the first couple of years. No way to recharge stuff at some point.

Goof wrote:

I'm thinking even if battery powered stuff worked right after the black out, it would all get used up in the first couple of years. No way to recharge stuff at some point.

that may well be too,when they showed the miltary base right after the black out when theyw ere trying to get back in, there was red lights at the entrance, wee they flares or somekind of battery type light. I would re-watch but i don't have it taped.

I think they were flares.

it could have something to do with the magnetic poles switching... that would prevent batteries from working, no? and it would be possible to have the technology so that things actually work.. I think the show is going to have alot of flashbacks since they went several years into the future so the kids are alot older now...

Goof wrote:

I'm thinking even if battery powered stuff worked right after the black out, it would all get used up in the first couple of years. No way to recharge stuff at some point.

that's true

do we know if the batteries stopped right away? the show picked up years after the incident, right?

iwantmycrayons wrote:

Iggy wrote:

Yes! I think/hope she is still around.

So, what kind of event would have to happen, to prevent batteries from working?

I did a quick search, and no where did I find a reason for batteries to stop working, except for if they got wet, or run down (over used, or not used at all) batteries have a shelf live. For them to stop working, is really confusing me. And, since, I cannot find a reason, bugging the crap out of me. It does not make sense.

And to stop combustional (sp) engines from working. In the event of an EMP, they would still work.

not sure about the batteries, but almost all engines have electronic ignitions right now, so almost all of them would not work an EMp would get into the wiriing and overload all the circuit boards and burn them out. of course it would probably do that to the computer that black woman was using too. I guees , like all JJ abrams shows, we will wait patiently for an answer. i'm quite sure he won't just expect us to know the answer and never explain WTF is going on, noone would ever do that on a TV show

lol, we may never know.

Goof wrote:

I'm thinking even if battery powered stuff worked right after the black out, it would all get used up in the first couple of years. No way to recharge stuff at some point.

Very true, Goof, but, there are solar powered chargers, that can re-charge rechargeable batteries. I am not sure, how long they last or how often they can be charged. So, 15 years is a long time, they are probably SOL.

blondie wrote:

Goof wrote:

I'm thinking even if battery powered stuff worked right after the black out, it would all get used up in the first couple of years. No way to recharge stuff at some point.

that's true

do we know if the batteries stopped right away? the show picked up years after the incident, right?

Desi, 15 years after the lights went out.

The Dad did say "not even batteries worked", no idea what that means.

This show is gonna make my head hurt. lol

I think the batteries didn't work right from the start.

Eric Kripke (the creator) said, about what didn't work - “Anything that throws a spark, any circuit that carries an electrical charge…. That’s the simple, clean rule,” said Kripke. “That means batteries and spark plugs, engines….”

So the key seems to be - anything that throws a spark............................hmmmmmm............

I can't imagine what it is.

Diesel

desi wrote:

it could have something to do with the magnetic poles switching... that would prevent batteries from working, no? and it would be possible to have the technology so that things actually work.. I think the show is going to have alot of flashbacks since they went several years into the future so the kids are alot older now...

Good one! The Earth IS over due for a pole reversal, although there would actually be a lot more side effects beyond an EMP.

Goof wrote:

desi wrote:

it could have something to do with the magnetic poles switching... that would prevent batteries from working, no? and it would be possible to have the technology so that things actually work.. I think the show is going to have alot of flashbacks since they went several years into the future so the kids are alot older now...

Good one! The Earth IS over due for a pole reversal, although there would actually be a lot more side effects beyond an EMP.

yea and since they skipped forward so many years it is possible there were other side effects we just didn't see them yet :)

desi wrote:

Goof wrote:

desi wrote:

it could have something to do with the magnetic poles switching... that would prevent batteries from working, no? and it would be possible to have the technology so that things actually work.. I think the show is going to have alot of flashbacks since they went several years into the future so the kids are alot older now...

Good one! The Earth IS over due for a pole reversal, although there would actually be a lot more side effects beyond an EMP.

yea and since they skipped forward so many years it is possible there were other side effects we just didn't see them yet :)

JJ will answer all the questions, he always does

iwantmycrayons wrote:

desi wrote:

Goof wrote:

desi wrote:

it could have something to do with the magnetic poles switching... that would prevent batteries from working, no? and it would be possible to have the technology so that things actually work.. I think the show is going to have alot of flashbacks since they went several years into the future so the kids are alot older now...

Good one! The Earth IS over due for a pole reversal, although there would actually be a lot more side effects beyond an EMP.

yea and since they skipped forward so many years it is possible there were other side effects we just didn't see them yet :)

JJ will answer all the questions, he always does

lol, Mr. Crayons, JJ will leave the show in a year or so, and we will never know.

I saw something interesting on the season premier last night of "Haven."

They had an incident which resulted in magnetic changes and the car engines stopped working.

I didn't know that there was a connection between the two, but apparently there is.

So, I'm thinking that desi is on the right track - some kind of magnetic incident is the cause. Maybe not a pole reversal, but some kind of magnetic incident.

It was the Dharma experiments.Perhaps the "Incident".

ladycolleen wrote:

I saw something interesting on the season premier last night of "Haven."

They had an incident which resulted in magnetic changes and the car engines stopped working.

I didn't know that there was a connection between the two, but apparently there is.

So, I'm thinking that desi is on the right track - some kind of magnetic incident is the cause. Maybe not a pole reversal, but some kind of magnetic incident.

From what I have read/seen, a total pole reversal, would totally flip the world, and there would be few survivors.

Like you I do believe, in this show, some kind of magnetic incident, could cause batteries to stop working.

And if it is because Des stopped pushing the button on Dharma Island, I will be super pissed. lol

ladycolleen wrote:

lol,

ladycolleen wrote:

I saw something interesting on the season premier last night of "Haven."

They had an incident which resulted in magnetic changes and the car engines stopped working.

I didn't know that there was a connection between the two, but apparently there is.

So, I'm thinking that desi is on the right track - some kind of magnetic incident is the cause. Maybe not a pole reversal, but some kind of magnetic incident.